Absolute Moral Authority

Because plain old moral authority just wasn’t good enough — a mesablue production

Oh England, we hardly knew ye

Posted by mesablue on September 4, 2007

An interesting look at the losing battle over the soul of The Empire.

Cal Thomas at Real Clear Politics

England is Vanishing

BELFAST, NORTHERN IRELAND — Perhaps there will not always be an England. An exodus unprecedented in modern times, coupled with a record influx of foreigners, is threatening to erode the character of the land of William Shakespeare and overpowering monarchs, a land that served as the cradle for much of American thought, law and culture.


The figures, making headlines in London newspapers, tell only part of the story. Between June 2005 and June 2006 nearly 200,000 British citizens chose to leave the country for a new life elsewhere. During the same period, at least 574,000 immigrants came to Britain. This number does not include the people who broke the law to get there, or the thousands unknown to the government. Britain’s Office of National Statistics reports that middle-class Britons are beginning to move out of towns in southern England that have become home to large numbers of immigrants, thereby altering the character of neighborhoods that have remained unchanged for generations.


Britons give many reasons for leaving, but their stories share one commonality: life in Britain has become unbearable for them. They fear lawlessness and the threat of more terrorism from a growing Muslim population and the loss of a sense of Britishness, exacerbated by the growing refusal of public schools to teach the history and culture of the nation to the next generation. What it means to be British has been watered down in a plague of political correctness that has swept the country faster than hoof-and-mouth disease. Officials say they do not wish to “offend” others.

Go read the rest.

The last line of the article is scary:

The greater tragedy is that the people of Britain have little say in any of this, so they are taking the road of last resort. They are leaving.

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12 Responses to “Oh England, we hardly knew ye”

  1. bmac said

    “The greater tragedy is that the people of Britain have little say in any of this”
    Is that true? Aren’t they a democracy? Maybe they should spend a little less time fawning over ex-princess’s.

  2. S. Weasel said

    They’re mighty quiet about it, but their sovereignty is essentially overruled by the EU. And the EU is largely unelected and unaccountable to anyone.

    Yes, it’s bad. Very bad. So I’m moving there!

  3. Roads said

    The truth is that this country, just like yours, has depended on immigrants for centuries.You might call us English, but historically and ethnically we’re just a mish-mash of Celts, half-forgotten Romans, Angles, Saxons, Flemish, Vikings, Normans … and that just describes a few of the most notable influxes up to 1300.

    We English are nothing if not a hybrid race, and so much so, that it’s desperately hard to know who got here first, or even who might have been here before them.

    Much more recently, of course, we share ‘our’ (ha!) country and this great city of London with Scots, Welsh, Irish, Kiwis, Aussies, South Africans, Jamaicans, European bankers, Ugandan Asians, Russian oil magnates, displaced Jews, Zimbabwean refugees, Palestinians, Indians, Pakistanis, Thai, Greek airline owners, half a million Polish plumbers, plus a Premiership of foreign footballers.

    And even the occasional Yank, as well (if I can still count Madonna in that category).

    We benefit enormously, from all of these people and the different perspectives and rich diversity they bring.

    Immigration is such a difficult issue to manage, but ultimately it’s basic economics – immigration has managed itself, unbridled, for centuries, and it likely always will.

    We’re all a part of that story, each and every one of us over here in England, and surely, in America, so are all of you.

    I must say that I don’t know where it will all end, or what the answers really are.

    From this distance, the depth of suspicion and fear (not directly to infer racism) felt by the US about Mexico seems like such a huge missed opportunity.

    And whilst we might all applaud such marvellous American films as ‘Bread and Roses’, ‘Crash’ and ‘Babel’ for their wry observations and searing indictment of the conditions and difficulties facing the immigrant classes, perhaps that description tells its own tale of prejudice.

    Because, ultimately, there should be no such thing as an ‘immigrant class’.

    After all, going back in time, we all fit inside that category.

    Even you, my dear fellow, even you.

  4. S. Weasel said

    You, sir, are full of shit. This notion that “Englishness is whatever is happening in England at the moment, no matter how big a change that is from whatever was happening in England a little while ago” is an attitude you occasionally in Britons of the young, rich and stupid variety. The dinner party set eats this facile bullshit up by the pound. It is fashionable, nihilist bollocks.

    Invaded by Normans in 1066, therefore you’re a nation of immigrants? Pull the other one, Sherlock.

  5. Steve said

    And invaded by the Angles and Saxons around 500, and the Danes somewhere in between.

  6. Roads said

    Gosh, that must have hit a real nerve. Three expletives in just the first paragraph of your reply.

    So much for absolute moral authority, buster.

    In your foul-mouthed outrage you’ve missed the point that the whole modern history of your country is also based on immigration. So what exactly does that make you ? (Aside from repellent and ignorant, obviously).

  7. S. Weasel said

    “Hit a nerve” is not the same thing as “made a good point.” Statements can hit a nerve when they are light-bendingly stupid, for example.

    As an immigrant to the UK, I find the nihilism of young Britons deeply depressing. It’s not that they don’t like their own culture, it’s that they don’t even recognize that they have one. You have to go pretty far out from town to find people who have any appreciation of the soil under their feet.

    America is a nation built on immigration. Britain is not. To point to the several historical invasions of Britain as if they were part of some happy, modern multicultural experiment is to give short schrift to the conquered. Military conquest hurts and is a poor model for modern migration.

    Never met a Brit who was squeamish about language before. It tempts me to cut loose with several of my favorites, but this isn’t my blog.

  8. S. Weasel said

    Meh! Stray Italians! Wogs! Invaders! Whoop!

  9. mesablue said

    Heh, language is not a problem on this site — Wickedpinto lives here.

  10. S. Weasel said

    Well, I can’t do it now. Everybody’s looking.

    I’m also pee-shy.

  11. You dropped the F bomb before I did MESA!!!
    And I like the “lives here” thing.

    Like I wander in drunken after a night at aces, to rack out on the bra for your fiero.

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