Absolute Moral Authority

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Was Christ a Socialist?

Posted by Wickedpinto on November 4, 2010

I always hate talking religion, simply because of my own personal beliefs, which basically don’t exist, but Alex Knapp at OTB puts this up.

Their closing line is.

But generosity to the poor is a fundamental Judeo-Christian principle, and it’s nonsensical to simultaneously believe that the country’s government is based on Judeo-Christian principles and then be opposed the government operating on those principles.

Well, I would say, WRONG.  The reason isn’t that I say Christianity doesn’t support charity, it does, to a great degree.  I DO say that Christ in the passages quoted (go there and read it, it’s not a big read) is talking precisely about charity.  What the government does isn’t charity, it’s coercion.  It’s actually kinda Ironic that I would be the one saying this, for anyone who knows me would agree about how unfit I am to speak on this, but even in the text of his second quote they prove their own point incorrect.   The young man of wealth was negotiating with The Christ and was given the terms of his contract for eternity, and decided he didn’t like the terms.  So after the young man of wealth turned down the offer and walked away, Jesus didn’t send peter to tackle the kid and take his wealth, he simply let the kid decide if he felt the exchange was a worthy use of his wealth, to which the kid apparently said no.   Sounds like a Contract to me, which is foundational to capitalism.  Young man of wealth kept his gold, but Jesus didn’t provide him the service.

Another quote from the bible, which seems quite non distribution of wealthy.

3Then Mary took about a pinta of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus’ feet and wiped his feet with her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume.

4But one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, who was later to betray him, objected, 5“Why wasn’t this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year’s wages.b6He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

7“Leave her alone,” Jesus replied. “[It was intended] that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial. 8You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me.”

See?  Even The Christ accepts charity, rather than taking it away from Mary and giving it to someone else.  That uncharitable prick, Jesus The Christ, didn’t he know that he was a redistributor of wealth?

I don’t write this for any reason other than that I friggen HATE people invoking scripture to rationalize their own personal social and political biases.

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4 Responses to “Was Christ a Socialist?”

  1. Beth said

    I think it’s hilarious when godless libs talk about what Christ would do. Fuck those stupid libs. I just ignore it, though – if it makes them even infinitesimally less godless, they can think Jesus was a communist, for all I care. They’re wrong, of course, but that’s their problem, and between them and their “Gaia” or whatever atheist “god” they’re into. They’re just stupid libs, who are always, ALWAYS intellectually dishonest and who need to invent shit to justify their dishonesty and stupidity. Point and laugh.

  2. Along a somewhat similar line. Robyn hood stole the taxes collected by the sherriff’s men, and returned it to the overburdened people who had their wealth extorted from them. Robyn did redistribute wealth. He took it from the thieves, and gave it back to the people who had been robbed. Not a socialist, a patriotic revolutionary.

  3. I like twisting their heads around with this stuff:

    7 And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ 8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead,[a] cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.
    -Matthew 10:7-8

    Whaaaaattt? You mean it wasn’t just about giving stuff away? There was another component?

    And when they insist that welfare is charity, and that as a Christian, I should be all for the Health Care Takeover and the like, I hit’em with this:

    7 So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.
    -2 Corinthians 9:7

    They usually don’t want to play anymore after that.

  4. hahaney said

    Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”

    The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. 23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

    And before him shall be gathered all NATIONS: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats; 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; 35 For I was hungry, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in; 36 Naked, and ye clothed me; I was sick, and ye visited me; I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

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